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	<title>Huddled Masses &#187; WebHosting</title>
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		<title>Announcing PowerShellGroup.org &#8211; A home for PowerShell User Groups</title>
		<link>http://joelbennett.net/announcing-powershellgroup-org-a-home-for-powershell-user-groups/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve just created PowerShellGroup.org &#8212; a new site for PowerShell user groups (starting with: Rochester, Syracuse, Atlanta, Ottawa and of course, the Virtual Group). It&#8217;s open to any PowerShell user groups or script clubs. If you&#8217;re running a PowerShell user group and want simple web-hosting with: top-of-the-site billing for your group (with a url like [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve just created <a href="http://PowerShellGroup.org">PowerShellGroup.org</a> &#8212; a new site for PowerShell user groups (starting with: <a href="http://PowerShellGroup.org/rochester-ny">Rochester</a>, <a href="http://PowerShellGroup.org/syracuse-ny">Syracuse</a>, <a href="http://PowerShellGroup.org/atlanta-ga">Atlanta</a>, <a href="http://PowerShellGroup.org/ottawa-ca">Ottawa</a> and of course, the <a href="http://powershellgroup.org/virtual">Virtual Group</a>).</p>

	<p>It&#8217;s open to any PowerShell user groups or script clubs. If you&#8217;re running a PowerShell user group and want simple web-hosting with:
	<ul>
		<li>top-of-the-site billing for your group (with a url like http://powershellgroup.org/rochester-ny )</li>
		<li>group signups</li>
		<li>events, calendars and event signups (including sending out <span class="caps">RSVP</span> emails to your group), and email reminders of events </li>
		<li>a semi-private group section for posting notices, wiki pages, etc.</li>
	</ul>
	<ul>
		<li>optional twitter notification for your posts</li>
	</ul><br />
and so on&#8230;</p>

	<p>Just let me know who you are after you sign up on the site, and I can set you up with &#8220;group administrator&#8221; rights.</p>

	<p>Also, if you have your own web hosting for your user group, but would like to be listed on our site, we can handle that too  <img src='http://joelbennett.net/wordpress/wp-includes/' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

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		<title>Wikia says: Forget Free &#8230; we&#8217;ll PAY you</title>
		<link>http://joelbennett.net/wikia-says-forget-free-well-pay-you/</link>
		<comments>http://joelbennett.net/wikia-says-forget-free-well-pay-you/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Huddled Masses]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Internet]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[News]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Software]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[WebHosting]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that his for-profit company, Wikia Inc., is ready to give away not just MediaWiki (the software which runs Wikipedia) but also the hosting you need to run it. And even further, if you run what they consider to be a popular website, you can even have the advertising revenue from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that his for-profit company, <a href="http://www.wikia.com">Wikia Inc.</a>, is ready to give away not just MediaWiki (the software which runs Wikipedia) but also the hosting you need to run it.  And even further, if you run what they consider to be a popular website, you can even have the advertising revenue from your wiki.</p>

	<p>The only catch is that they appear to be sort of forcing the <a href="http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html" title="Free Documentation License"><span class="caps">GNU</span> FDL</a> on you, which could cause problems for people who would prefer some other license (like a Creative Commons license, perhaps?) and although <a href="http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Memory_Alpha">Memory Alpha was able to get a different deal</a>, one doubts that anyone else would &#8212; Memory Alpha is a 7-Million hits per month site which brings in some serious ad revenue.</p>

	<p>At any rate, Wikia&#8217;s <a href="http://www.openserving.com">OpenServing</a> service will be giving away hosting in a MediaWiki derivative in exchange for links back to Wikia.  Not just that, but according to <a href="http://midmarket.eweek.com/article/Wikipedia+Founder+To+Give+Away+Site+Tools+Services/196001_1.aspx">this article on eWeek</a> they are hoping to become a sort of unified hosting based on open source website software such WordPress and Drupal.  In fact, they&#8217;re open to suggestions, so if you are a web software developer and have some other open source software you&#8217;re willing to help them install and maintain on their servers &#8230; they want to hear from you.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Searching for a new webhost</title>
		<link>http://joelbennett.net/searching-for-a-new-webhost/</link>
		<comments>http://joelbennett.net/searching-for-a-new-webhost/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 04:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Personal]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, for nearly three years this site has been hosted on a free promotional account from 1&#38;1, but that account expires sometime in October, and I&#8217;ve been looking around at the usual places trying to figure out what my best option is. It&#8217;s really hard to decide to spend even $7 a month on something [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So, for nearly three years this site has been hosted on a free promotional account from <a href="http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/Hosting?affiliate_id=44398">1&amp;1</a>, but that account expires sometime in October, and I&#8217;ve been looking around at the usual places trying to figure out what my best option is.  It&#8217;s really hard to decide to spend even $7 a month on something that I&#8217;ve been getting for free, but the account this is hosted on is really minimal by today&#8217;s standards, so some of the extras are catching my interest.</p>

	<p>The baseline account that I usually compare to is the <a href="http://www.bluehost.com/track/Jaykul/CODE2">$7 hosting from BlueHost</a> which currently offers 30GB of storage and 750GB of bandwidth &#8230; but of course, I don&#8217;t need a quarter of that (actually, right now I have only 500MB of storage, and I use less than 2GB of transfer <em>on this domain</em>).  So I started wondering if there&#8217;s anyone cutting them up smaller than that.</p>

	<p><span id="more-327"></span><br />
Here&#8217;s my table.  Note: I assume that every host has <span class="caps">PHP</span>, Perl and Python (<span class="caps">ASP</span>.<span class="caps">NET</span> for MS hosting), a database, and email accounts with some version of spam protection.  There&#8217;s two price columns because nearly everyone offers a huge discount if you sign up for several years, so I&#8217;ve listed the monthly price for the long-term and short-term prices, not including the setup fee that some charge (although I&#8217;ve listed setup fees as <em>bummers</em>).  Note: I can&#8217;t recommend these, since I&#8217;ve never used them  <img src='http://joelbennett.net/wordpress/wp-includes/' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>

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			<th><span class="caps">ISP</span>                                                      </th>
			<th>$$ </th>
			<th> $$$  </th>
			<th> Disc   </th>
			<th> Net </th>
			<th> Extras    </th>
			<th> Bummers </th>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://www.dot5hosting.com/" title="dot5">.5</a>                            </th>
			<td> $4 (2) </td>
			<td> $8     </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">20GB   </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">500GB     </td>
			<td> Ruby, Cronjobs, <span class="caps">SSL</span>   </td>
			<td>&nbsp; </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://partners.ipower.com/z/56/CD4790/&#38;dp=12883" title="iPower">iP</a>     </th>
			<td> $4 (2) </td>
			<td> $7     </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">3GB    </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">50GB      </td>
			<td>&nbsp; </td>
			<td> $10 setup without commitment, no Python or perl </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://www.routhost.com" title="RoutHost">RH</a>                            </th>
			<td> $3 (1) </td>
			<td> $6     </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">0.75GB </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">20GB      </td>
			<td> Fantastico, <span class="caps">SSH</span>       </td>
			<td> no Python, charges for extra domains </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://www.routhost.com" title="RoutHost">RH</a>                            </th>
			<td> $5 (1) </td>
			<td> $8     </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">1.5GB  </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">40GB      </td>
			<td> above + extra domain  </td>
			<td> same as above </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://www.serversea.com/Home/" title="ServerSea">SS</a>                    </th>
			<td> &nbsp; </td>
			<td> $2     </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">0.1GB  </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">2GB       </td>
			<td> Free domain, Crontab, Windows option (<span class="caps">ASP</span>.<span class="caps">NET</span>, Java)      </td>
			<td> &nbsp; </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://www.serversea.com/Home/" title="ServerSea">SS</a>                    </th>
			<td> &nbsp; </td>
			<td> $3     </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">0.2GB  </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">5GB       </td>
			<td> +10 subdomains, <span class="caps">MSSQL</span> (on windows), Tomcat </td>
			<td> &nbsp; </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://www.serversea.com/Home/" title="ServerSea">SS</a>                    </th>
			<td> &nbsp; </td>
			<td> $5     </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">0.5GB  </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">10GB      </td>
			<td> Unlimited subdomains, Shared <span class="caps">SSL</span> cert </td>
			<td> &nbsp; </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/Hosting?affiliate_id=44398" title="1and1">1&amp;1</a>                    </th>
			<td> $2.25  </td>
			<td> $3     </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">5GB    </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">250GB     </td>
			<td> Free Domain, Software, <strong>Windows option</strong> </td>
			<td> No Python or Perl (no .<span class="caps">NET</span> on Windows) </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/Hosting?affiliate_id=44398" title="1and1">1&amp;1</a>                    </th>
			<td> $3.75  </td>
			<td> $5     </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">50GB   </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">500GB     </td>
			<td> 2 Free Domains        </td>
			<td> (no .<span class="caps">NET</span> on Windows) </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/Hosting?affiliate_id=44398" title="1and1">1&amp;1</a>                    </th>
			<td> $7.50  </td>
			<td> $10    </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">100GB  </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">1000GB    </td>
			<td> 3 Free Domains, Cron, <span class="caps">SSH</span>, Shared <span class="caps">SSL</span> </td>
			<td> &nbsp; </td>
		</tr>
	</table>

	<p>Here&#8217;s my usual high ends, they have huge ammounts of everything, you know, dozens of databases and hundreds of email accounts &#8230; the idea is that you can run big commercial sites or sublease &#8230; </p>

	<table style="border:1px solid black;">
		<tr>
			<th><span class="caps">ISP</span></th>
			<th>$$ </th>
			<th> $$$  </th>
			<th> Disc   </th>
			<th> Net </th>
			<th> Extras    </th>
			<th> Bummers </th>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://partners.ipower.com/z/56/CD4790/&#38;dp=12883" title="iPower">iP</a>       </th>
			<td> $7        </td>
			<td> $10    </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">10GB   </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">250GB     </td>
			<td> &nbsp; </td>
			<td> $30 without commitment, no Python </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://www.bluehost.com/track/Jaykul/CODE2" title="BlueHost">BH</a>           </th>
			<td> $7 (2yrs) </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">30GB   </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">750GB     </td>
			<td> Free Domain, subdomains, Ruby, Fantastico </td>
			<td> No upgrades possible, they only offer this one package.</td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://www.powweb.com/join/index.bml?AffID=560615&#38;LinkName=pw" title="PowWeb">PW</a>                                </th>
			<td> $8 (1yr)  </td>
			<td> $18    </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">20GB   </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">400GB     </td>
			<td> PHP5, Shared <span class="caps">SSL</span>      </td>
			<td> No Python, No upgrades possible, they only offer this one package. </td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<th><a href="http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?jaykul" title="DreamHost">DH</a>         </th>
			<td> $8 (2yr)  </td>
			<td> $10    </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">20GB   </td>
			<td style="text-align:right;">1000GB    </td>
			<td> Free Domain, <span class="caps">SSH</span> with compilers, Cron, PHP5, Ruby, <strong>WebDAV</strong>, <strong>Subversion</strong>, <strong>Jabber</strong> ($30 coupon code: <span class="caps">GEOSHELL</span>) </td>
			<td>$50 setup fee (waived for long-term signups) </td>
		</tr>
	</table>

	<p>So anyway.  The Dreamhost thing still appeals to me because of the extras, by which I mean Jabber and <span class="caps">SVN</span> and WebDAV, and they do have a 3 month money-back guarantee, but on the other hand&#8230;. I&#8217;m already on 1&amp;1, and you just can&#8217;t beat their-low cost plans for price/performance, and lets face it, I don&#8217;t really use python, ruby, or even my shell account &#8212; I&#8217;ve got my own Linux box, thanks.</p>

	<p>Anyone have any other thoughts or suggestions?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>1and1 $5 hosting</title>
		<link>http://joelbennett.net/1and1-5-hosting/</link>
		<comments>http://joelbennett.net/1and1-5-hosting/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 00:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Huddled]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it&#8217;s cheap &#8230; and I&#8217;ve got no complaints about 1and1 (at the time of this writing, they host huddledmasses.org). $4.99 for 120GB of space, and 1200GB monthly transfer volume. You even get 25 MySQL databases, 10 FTP accounts, and the usual scripting languages (Perl, Python, PHP). You have full ability to host multiple domains [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, it&#8217;s cheap &#8230; and I&#8217;ve got no complaints about <a href="http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/Hosting?affiliate_id=44398">1and1</a> (at the time of this writing, they host huddledmasses.org).</p>

	<p>$4.99 for 120GB of space, and 1200GB monthly transfer volume.  You even get 25 MySQL databases, 10 <span class="caps">FTP</span> accounts, and the usual scripting languages (Perl, Python, <span class="caps">PHP</span>). You have full ability to host multiple domains and subdomains &#8212; you even get two domain names free, and 1200 email accounts.</p>

	<h4> <img src='http://joelbennett.net/wordpress/wp-includes/' alt='[new]' class='wp-smiley' />  Edit:</h4>

	<p>I&#8217;m in the process of moving some of my domains <em>back</em> to 1and1, because they offer pure <a href="http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/Instant?affiliate_id=44398">domain name registration</a> services now, and they&#8217;re cheaper than GoDaddy (with the possible exception of the initial &#8220;new signup&#8221; bonuses that GoDaddy tempts you with).</p>

	<p>Actually, they have a new $4/mo account which is more than enough for the average site: $3.99 includes the domain, and 10GB of space and 300GB of transfer, as well as the ability to have subdomains and multiple external domains, and up to 10 databases and 600 email accounts. It does have <span class="caps">PHP</span> 4 and 5, but not Perl or Python at that price.  </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Best hosting deal?</title>
		<link>http://joelbennett.net/best-hosting-deal/</link>
		<comments>http://joelbennett.net/best-hosting-deal/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 04:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Huddled]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Personal]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[WordPress]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Netfirms has a coupon code that gives you a year for under $10, but that *still* might not be the best deal, long term.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So, I was just checking out a few new webhosting deals, aside from the one I usually recommend. </p>

	<h4><a href="http://www.bluehost.com/track/Jaykul/CODE2">BlueHost</a></h4>

	<p>Normally I suggest <a href="http://www.bluehost.com/track/Jaykul/CODE2">BlueHost</a>, which offers <del>10GB</del> <ins>15GB</ins> of disk space and <del>250GB</del> <ins>400GB</ins> of transfer in addition to a free for life domain, self-generated <span class="caps">SSL</span> certificates and all the usual stuff like <span class="caps">PHP</span>, <ins>Ruby on Rails</ins> and Fantastico and shell access &#8230; for only $6.95 a month (if you sign up for two years).  Honestly that&#8217;s still the cheapest hosting around, long-term.</p>

	<h4><a href="http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?jaykul">DreamHost</a></h4>

	<p>However, <a href="http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?jaykul">DreamHost</a> has to be the most interesting deal I&#8217;ve seen, and actually may have more bang for the buck than BlueHost!  Their $7.95 a month (for two years) is only a dollar more than BlueHost, and you can save $30 off that by using <code>GEOSHELL</code> as your coupon code, which actually makes it cheaper than BlueHost for the first 2 years &#8230; and they offer 20GB of disk space, and a full Terabyte of transfer, both of which <em>increase weekly</em> (by 160 MB and 8 GB, respectively). They also give you unlimited domains and MySQL databases, PHP4 <strong>and</strong> PHP5, Ruby on Rails, and your own Jabber and <span class="caps">CVS</span> servers!  Excellent for collaborative development projects, and I gotta say, I really like the idea of having my own Jabber server&#8230; <ins>oh, and they have a 3 month money-back guarantee.</ins></p>

	<h4><a href="http://affiliates.netfirms.com/e.asp?e=8&#38;id=2476">NetFirms</a></h4>

	<p>But in the purely cheap hosting arena, I found a new contender in <a href="http://affiliates.netfirms.com/e.asp?e=8&#38;id=2476">NetFirms</a>, where one of my friends works.  Their $9.95 a month hosting offers 20GB of disk space, and 750 GB transfer &#8230; and now they include shell access, as well as ruby and python (they also offer to pre-install and configure WordPress as your default web page).  Now at $10 a month, I&#8217;ve never been that impressed, but I just found out they have a coupon code: 998, which gives you the first year for only $9.98 (yeah, for the <strong>whole year</strong>, that&#8217;s 92% off).  Pretty cool, eh?  If you think about it, that makes two years less than $120, so it&#8217;s like $5 a month, <strong>way</strong> cheaper than anything else out there!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<dc:creator>Joel 'Jaykul' Bennett</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I&#8217;ve been looking for a hosting solution for my church&#8217;s website &#8230; we need to grow, and our current host is just not positioned to make that affordable. I was looking for something over 500 MB of disk space, with over 15 GB of monthly network traffic, and in particular, for a host with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So, I&#8217;ve been looking for a hosting solution for my church&#8217;s website &#8230; we need to grow, and our current host is just not positioned to make that affordable.  I was looking for something over 500 MB of disk space, with over 15 GB of monthly network traffic, and in particular, for a host with <span class="caps">SSL</span> enabled so we can set up a storefront to sell Concert tickets as well as books and CD&#8217;s that are being produced by <a href="http://www.elimgospel.org">EGC</a> and <a href="http://www.elimpublishing.com/">Elim Publishing</a> &#8230;  Of course, we&#8217;re also talking about setting up seperate domains, or possibly just sub-domains for the &#8220;Youth&#8221; and the &#8220;Concerts&#8221; ... and I need to be able to give the people in charge of those areas <span class="caps">FTP</span> access, but limit it to those areas, and of course, I need seperate <span class="caps">SQL</span> databases for them.</p>

<div style="float:right; padding: 5px;"><script src="http://www.bluehost.com/src/js/Jaykul/CODE2/125x125/2.gif"></script></div>

	<p>With all that in mind, I went shopping.  I&#8217;ll add some more information about other hosts later on, but the bottom line is that BlueHost looks astonishing, with <strike>2</strike> 4 GB of disk space,  <strike>75</strike> 100 GB of Transfer,  <span class="caps">SSL</span> and even <span class="caps">GPG</span> so you can generate certificates, as well as <span class="caps">SSH</span> access and the ability to create your own MySQL or PostgreSQL databases. Of course, they also have anonymous <span class="caps">FTP</span>, and the ability to create up to <strike>1000</strike> 2500 individual POP3 and <span class="caps">FTP</span> accounts with their own directories &#8230;  They have an amazing number of preinstalled scripts: from three different webmail apps (NeoMail, Horde, SquirrelMail) and three statistics packages set up on <em>each</em> subdomain (and on the whole package) (Analog, Webalizer, and Awstats), they even have <a href="http://netenberg.com/fantastico.php">fantastico</a> set up so you can easily install <a href="http://netenberg.com/fantastico_scripts.php">anything</a> from <a href="http://www.mamboserver.com">Mambo (An amazing <acronym title="Content Management System">CMS</acronym>)</a> (which we&#8217;re thinking about using for the church site) to <a href="http://moodle.org/" title="A remote learning package for doing online courses">Moodle</a> (which I just set up for <a href="http://www.elim.edu">Elim Bible Institute</a>) and of course <a href="http://wordpress.org/">WordPress</a> and <a href="http://gallery.menalto.com/">Gallery</a> (both of which I use here on this site).</p>

	<p>So anyway &#8230; I haven&#8217;t signed up for an account yet &#8230; I&#8217;m just wondering if anyone has tried them?  I&#8217;m basically looking for testimonials (other than those which might be planted out there already).  Incidentally, if you have other recommendations, feel free to mention them, but keep in mind the stats on <a href="http://www.bluehost.com/track/Jaykul/text">this deal</a> and don&#8217;t waste your time on huge descriptions, since I can check out the feature set myself [ <img src='http://joelbennett.net/wordpress/wp-includes/' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ]</p>

	<h4> <img src='http://joelbennett.net/wordpress/wp-includes/' alt='[new]' class='wp-smiley' />  Update: 9-Dec-2004</h4>

	<p>Well, I ended up going with BlueHost for <a href="http://www.elimonline.org/">ElimOnline</a> and the moodle install worked perfectly. So far, I&#8217;m quite happy with it, no problems whatsoever.</p>

	<h4> <img src='http://joelbennett.net/wordpress/wp-includes/' alt='[new]' class='wp-smiley' />  Update: 7-Jun-2005</h4>

	<p>I just noticed BlueHost has doubled the disk space they offer, so I figured I&#8217;d update this post in case anyone finds it while looking for information on hosting companies.  I&#8217;ve now got several sites hosted with BlueHost, and the only problem I&#8217;ve had is one of my &#8220;customers&#8221; that couldn&#8217;t make up their mind if they wanted the free domain or the free domain transfer, and ended up confusing the BlueHost sales guy.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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